Note: documents found at the Internet Modern History Sourcebook
Others felt the process operated in reverse order. Joseph Schumpeter, in The Sociology of Imperialism, wrote that the imperialist spirit was a consequence of "The 'inner logic' of capitalism would have never evolved it. Its sources come from the policy of the princes and the customs of a pre-capitalism milieu... a martially-oriented class (i.e. the nobility) [that] maintained itself in the ruling position." The nationalist, statist desire for expansion and glory, in other words, created the opportunity for economic expansion.
Because the causes and effects of imperialism are so intermixed, determining them presents a 'chicken and the egg' problem. However, I am inclined to agree with Mr. Schumpeter. Imperialism was a state-sponsored enterprise, with the state acting in a power-maximizing fashion. Companies may have advocated and endorsed it, but it was fundamentally a political and cultural ideology.
“Others felt the process operated in reverse order. Joseph Schumpeter, in The Sociology of Imperialism, wrote that the imperialist spirit was a consequence of "The 'inner logic' of capitalism would have never evolved it. Its sources come from the policy of the princes and the customs of a pre-capitalism milieu... a martially-oriented class (i.e. the nobility) [that] maintained itself in the ruling position." The nationalist, statist desire for expansion and glory, in other words, created the opportunity for economic expansion.”
ReplyDeletehttp://thedeadwhiteguyfiles.blogspot.com/2009/02/highest-stage-of-capitalism.html
What role then does economics play in all this? Is the state just using capitalists to achieve its own state-building ends? I am trying to see where the reciprocity is here? After all, do we have imperialist tendencies today in US foreign policy? Why are we in Iraq? Is it solely because we want to spread freedom's flame—albeit a bit gingerly I hope ... Also, wouldn't a country, from political calculus, want new colonies to beef up its economic sector, given the profusion of new technologies that needed new resources? And how could you tease apart the causality in all this? What was first—companies screaming for new markets etc., or the gov'ts that wanted to use them for their own purposes?
“The phrase "innate tendencies of the peoples" may signal a "bottom-up" mentality here. However, we can draw a useful analogy to Marx here. Both Mazzini and Marx argue that change will invariably happen. They do not say how. It is for that reason, for example, that Lenin could remain faithful to Marx in arguing that the proletarian revolution required a vanguard.”
http://thedeadwhiteguyfiles.blogspot.com/2009/01/clarification-on-mazzini-reply-to-cas.html
This is an interesting comment. I am not certain that Marx had in mind a “dedicated cadre of revolutionaries” who would speed the nascent revolution along... The Revolution had to be “Ready to Go.” Marx could not conceive of Russia being the birthplace of communism, since it was too primitive in terms of its historical development. The Revolution would start in Germany or England, according to Marx, since that was where capitalism was most developed. The “vanguard” you speak of would fulfill a similar role to elements of the 1st and 2nd Estates that sided with the 3rd Estate, rather than Lenin's vision, which I think Marx would reject. And he would also reject Mao's approach for exactly the same reasons... On the subtlety issue—I stand corrected; I do appreciate some provocative thoughts now and then...
“I'm going to distinguish between a 'society' and a 'nation' here. A society is the collection of people usually governed as a nation. Societies do not need 'balances of power', states do. Societies do not engage in arms races, or seek territorial expansion, or steal from their citizens.”
http://thedeadwhiteguyfiles.blogspot.com/2009/01/summary-post-117-25.html
So, do societies have “balances of power” within them? Is that really a loopy concept? Is there theft within societies? Is the issue here—the coercive power of the state rather than the non-coercive possibilities of other regimes that take some form of society as its foundation? An interesting book for you Pierre Clastres, Society Against the State.
“In addition, he resisted the impulse to punish France severely in the Franco-Prussian war. While it engendered lingering animosity among the French, Bismarck's territorial reach or indemnity could have been far greater. It was to his credit that he chose to restrain himself there.”
http://thedeadwhiteguyfiles.blogspot.com/2009/01/bismarck-or-reply-to-charlie.html,
Do you have any evidence for this claim? The size of reparations was intended to ruin France. He kept it diplomatically isolated for decades. He also took the industrial rsource rich A-L from the French. How could this not upset the French and earn Germany its undying hatred. Are you saying that Bismarck made a mistake here—that he should have gone full metal jacket on the French? Or that he was just a nice guy?